# Http://c9.io. and Back End

**URL:** <https://forum.freecodecamp.org/t/http-c9-io-and-back-end/165126>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [December 24, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://forum.freecodecamp.org/t/http-c9-io-and-back-end/165126 "2017-12-24T06:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![EliasGreen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/freecodecamp/user_avatar/forum.freecodecamp.org/eliasgreen/32/74160_2.png) [@EliasGreen](https://forum.freecodecamp.org/u/EliasGreen)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://forum.freecodecamp.org/t/http-c9-io-and-back-end/165126/1 "2017-12-24T06:37:42Z")

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will be brief:  
To start learning Back End(I’ve already complete Front and Data Visual) and create projects FCC proposes use [http://c9.io](http://c9.io), but I’m only 17 now and I’m not able to have debit/credit card --\> I can’t use [http://c9.io](http://c9.io)  
What would you recommend to do?  
Do there exist alternatives of cloud9(without a card)?

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**Author:** ![Implaier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/freecodecamp/user_avatar/forum.freecodecamp.org/implaier/32/160235_2.png) [@Implaier](https://forum.freecodecamp.org/u/Implaier)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 7:51am UTC](https://forum.freecodecamp.org/t/http-c9-io-and-back-end/165126/2 "2017-12-24T07:51:59Z")

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You can try glitch.

> **[Glitch](https://glitch.com/)**
>
> The community that helps you build the app or bot of your dreams

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**Author:** ![ILM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/freecodecamp/user_avatar/forum.freecodecamp.org/ilm/32/363239_2.png) [@ILM](https://forum.freecodecamp.org/u/ILM)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.freecodecamp.org/t/http-c9-io-and-back-end/165126/3 "2021-01-16T17:13:29Z")

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Closed on January 16, 2021, 5:13pm UTC