Thank You and I Have a Single Question (Hayk Kotelyan)

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I was trying to find a way to send my gratitude towards Quincy Larson for the creation of this website, but I don’t see his personal email anywhere, so I’d like to say thank you to everyone in the community!!! I am highly grateful to all the volunteers, and especially Quincy Larson for creating this website! All of you have given me direction where their is no clear path, so I can hopefully find work in the web development industry. After hopefully finding work in Front-End Web Development (I’m currently available to design websites in HTML, CSS and Bootstrap, but I’m also still studying Javascript to receive a certificate, and to improve my value for any business looking for aspiring/talented individuals), I can continue improving my programming for tougher positions in Web Development, or maybe transition to another field in the tech industry. I highly respect and admire others who sacrifice their personal time, to assist/guide others in becoming contributors for their society, and to enrich their personal lives. In conclusion, thank you for all the work everyone has contributed on this website in order to bring free education/information/knowledge to the masses.

Single Question = What’s the estimated/close-to-exact time that the JavaScript Algorithms and Data Structures Certification will be updated? I want to know, because if the update/arrival for this certification arrives in four months, then its probably best that I study Javascript somewhere else in order to receive a certification as soon as possible from another website’s certification program. I’ve already completed the 113 parts of the “Basic JavaScript” section, but I don’t want to finish the certification on this website if the content is considered old, by some reddit posts I read, and if the content will be updated with new information in which I can’t wait too long for it. I’m currently on a journey to learn as much as possible, because I want to work in Front-end Web Development/Design as soon as possible. Thank you for reading this entire post, and have a wonderful day!!!

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Don’t worry about certificates, except as milestones on your journey. No hirer is going to say, “Oh, they have a certificate from FCC (or whatever), we need to hire them.” They really aren’t going to care. What is important is what you learned and what you can build based on that knowledge.

Is the JavaScript Algorithms and Data Structures? I don’t know, I don’t think that badly. I’d have to see the specific complaints. I agree that there are some sections of FCC that need updating (the React section for example) but I thought the DSA section was holding up OK. DSA really doesn’t change much over time. Data structures are data structures and algorithms are algorithms - they don’t really change much. The details of a specific language can change… Looking over the lessons, yeah, some of it could be freshened up, like the OOP section talks a lot about constructor functions, etc, and that’s a little outdated. It’s still important to be introduced to it, though. And class is barely mentioned and comes before the OOP section - a little odd.

But still, it’s free and it’s a chance to learn. And that’s what’s most important, not a certificate. In your learning journey, you’re probably going to be looking at at least a couple different sources.

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I’m definitely not just using the certificates to get hired. I’m trying to receive the various certificates in front-end development to validate/demonstrate my skills/knowledge of the various technologies used in web development for a company, and to personally learn about making websites. I do have a set of personal websites I’ve created in the past, but I still have to upload those websites to my Github. After I finish learning on various website(s) (including this one), I will be uploading my personal websites I made in the past and the personal projects that I have finished on freeCodeCamp. The certificates are supplementary, but I would love to know what else I can study in order to enter this field? I’m wondering if its even possible to receive a front-end web development position anywhere without a Bachelor’s in Computer Science, or is the field really difficult to enter? I wasn’t trying to make the post seem complainy about “JavaScript Algorithms and Data Structures”. The only reason I was asking if their would be an update, was because of a Reddit post I read where Quincy Larson himself replied that he is very close to shipping a new update to “JavaScript Algorithms and Data Structures”. It said in the post that his team and him have been working on it for two years already. I’m sorry if my post read a bit complainy, that wasn’t my intention and I’m very grateful for everything this website has taught me. If you know any internship/work/maybe-even-volunteer opportunites for me to use my skills, I would love to help out with this website or any projects you know that can involve my lessons that I’ve been learning. I’m currently still learning Javascript, but I finished the “Responsive Web Design Certification”, and I used to learn Bootstrap 3 in the past. Anyways, thank you so much for replying, guiding, and helping me kevinSmith with the current position I’m in.

Reddit Post (source of my question, I can’t post links so please search in Google this sentence and it should be the first result) = I just completed Free Code Camp’s JavaScript Algorithms and Data Structures Certificate… here’s what I thought of it.

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I would learn things in situ. Just go through the FCC program (or something similar) and start building things. Start looking at open source things. Start using it. The things you need to learn will reveal themselves naturally. You can also look up blogs and youtube videos - there’s always someone that has a theory.

I’m wondering if its even possible to receive a front-end web development position anywhere without a Bachelor’s in Computer Science, or is the field really difficult to enter?

Sort of, and yes.

It is a difficult field to enter, for anyone. If you don’t have a CS degree, it’s a little harder. But it is also a field (especially web dev) where “I don’t have a degree, but here’s all the things I’ve learned and here are some samples of my work” will go further than in any other, imho.

I wasn’t trying to make the post seem complainy about “JavaScript Algorithms and Data Structures”.

It’s cool, don’t worry about it.

was because of a Reddit post I read where Quincy Larson himself replied that he is very close to shipping a new update to “JavaScript Algorithms and Data Structures”.

I’m not a part of that planning and I don’t know when that was.

Reddit Post (source of my question, I can’t post links so please search in Google this sentence and it should be the first result)

OK, I looked it up.

Yeah, I get the first point the person made - it is a little confusing how it is laid out.

I disagree with the second point. I mean, it depends. The cert calls itself “Data Structures and Algorithms” but really it is “Beginning and a Little Intermediate JS with a Little Data Structures and Algorithm Mixed In”. I think it should be broken in two - a JS cert that can also have some DOM manipulation, etc, like the OP wanted, but DSA is completely independent of that so I think it would need to be a separate cert. But again, I don’t make those decisions.

But just learn, don’t worry about it. It’s like you’re stranded on an island and a rescue boat comes and you say, “no thanks, I heard there is another, nicer boat that is probably going to be here in a few days…”

Just learn. Ultimately, computing the sum of prime numbers in a range is going to be the same whether you learn it one way or another. I’d just go with what you have. As I said, I think some of it is organized confusingly - but just google it first, and if that doesn’t help, ask the forum - that’s why it’s there.

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Again thank you so much for all your advice kevin! I’ll take your advice to heart while I’m continuing to learn for this career. I hope you have a wonderful day.

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