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I appreciate the good advice. I know this is a freeCodeCamp forum(lol), and I should(and probably will) make relevant posts on w3 forums intead( if they have one?), but regarding w3’s JS tutorial, I have definitely been tinkering with examples from the first one on, and that’s been helpful, but I think they could use an overhaul so that a beginner could do the entire thing in a single stretch without hitting a wall. I want to be able to cover all the material and later, when I choose a practice project, I can then go back and reference what I need to, rather than have to reverse engineer examples and leave to research my way past it, which is what I’ve been doing so far whenever they suddenly drop something completely new on me without adequate groundwork. I think the single best upgrade they could do is have all “try it” examples embedded or at least in a closable pane. always opening every example in a new tab is tedious and annoying, and many other platforms have nice solutions in that regard. also probably good to have some kind of companion .pdf or pane with expanded explanations or some relevant hints.
haha, that ended up being wayy too long. sorry. thanks for the positive input. I really appreciate the “couple of passes before it gels” comment, I’m noticing that it is becoming true for me. I left off W3 for a bit to complete some easy youtube javascript projects(Traversy Media), but after doing those and being encouraged by my ability to follow those, I see clearly the benefits of the tedious reading and will go back complete whatever I can(especially since both FCC and W3 track your progress and you earn points and get little checkmarks!! love that!) so I suppose maybe I’m doing it right. just taking short trips out and returning til it’s over.
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so if i have to spend several days on just one lesson in js times 50-100 lessons that could take me 3 years probably just to go through js tutorials. is that what you are suggesting?
so if that means it takes me 2 yrs to go through all the JS tutorials thats would be normal then?
Literally nobody said that. Everyone’s learning path is different, but I would not expect it to take 2 years to finish the basic Javascript section if you are putting in consistent effort.
Coding is hard. There exists no easy way to learn it. You need to find the learning style and platform that works best for you personally, but learning enough to be job ready requires time, hard work, lots of research, and lots of trial and error.
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yeah but if i have to research 80% of of the tutorials and it takes me several days to figure out one tutorial, how long is that going to take? one to two years i would imagine is that what you recommend?
another thing is i already forgot what i learned from two weeks ago, which was arrays
Literally nobody is recommending years on the basic Javascript section.
80% of the tutorials should not require days of research. If that is happening then 1) you overlooked or forgot key information and 2) you should ask questions before putting in days of effort alone.
The purpose of this forum and the Discord is for learners to ask questions and get answers relatively quickly.
heres the thing ive forgotton everything ive learned in java script except that arrays are lists, ive been on javascript since april
If that is literally all you can remember, then you don’t know enough to make effective progress in the challenges. I would start again and ask lots of questions after putting in reasonable independent effort instead of spending days researching the answers.
I have two words for you: Anki Flashcards.
Ever since I started making Flashcards that cover Atomic concepts, I’ve been able to retain and recall a lot of what I had learnt.
Quick update : I’ve come to realize that making Flashcards are huge time commitment which may make me unproductive professionally.
I’ve switched to digital notetaking instead, using a tool that allows type input as well as handwritten (eg. Onenote). This I found to be a more organic form of learning where I comment my own thoughts and doodle over lecture material and code as I progress.
Or, just realize that you don’t need to memorize this stuff. You aren’t studying for your chem final. You have the internet. Professional programmers don’t sit around memorizing stuff. They learn ideas and google the details. If they do something over and over, they start to remember it, but it happens organically. They don’t sit around memorizing it.
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freeCodeCamp JS curriculum is a path to be followed. And it is up to you to make the necessary effort to get most out of it. I wish you best of luck
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