"So… How much they are paying for programmers without a degree?"
That came out from a co-worker last week.
I’m 34 years old employed Front End Developer from Brazil, self taught like most of you guys reading this post. No college or university degrees. A couple months ago I did this post https://forum.freecodecamp.org/t/one-year-of-fcc-gave-me-my-first-job-as-a-front-end-developer telling a little bit about my prospects after a long journey studying programming from free resources on the internet.
Now I’m part of the self taught professionals team and its a shame to state that we are at a great disadvantage. Not only by the numbers(the vast majority working on this field are graduated people), but we’re losing in opportunities too.
I don’t blame my IT friend for that statement.
He’s just expecting a better payment for his ‘plus’. The industry have been conditioning us on that way for a long time: certificates and diplomas can prove that your are better. It’s a ticket to the upper level. I understand that though.
Back then things were a lot more restricted. information didn’t flow around for free like nowdays.
I just don’t get why we can keep accepting this kind of mentality with the internet all over the place.
I’m not some subclass of employee just because my resources aren’t usual.
I’m doing great on my current job working on lots of different Front End projects. Actually, at the moment, I’m the only web front end on a team of 25 developers. People come to me to ask JS and CSS questions… But somehow it doesn’t count too munch for the ‘real world’!
I don’t deserve a chance to even be able to be heard on interviews? Or apply for positions where the prerequisites I already have?
On top of that another detail that makes me even more upset: I’am not completely uneducated in the pos- high school. I have a 80% mechanical engineer course on my history and a year of computer science. I did a lot of calculus and statistics. Still doesn’t count? Nope.
Now I face a new challenge: I’m making 4 dollars/hours on my current job and I need to find something more rentable. If I’m lucky enough I will be able to double this value in 2 or 3 years. It’s pretty hard to keep up with that amount and I don’t have much of a chance to make more than that without leaving the country.
So here I go again: I found out that looking for abroad job without a degree in computer science (or something like that) is almost impossible!
I did a lot of applications and it’s so frustrating when you are rejected because they can’t risk to contact someone overseas without a degree. I got to the point where I had to offer remote assistance to show my competency on the job. “our policy don’t allow it”.
How about the ‘CS degree or equivalent is required’ - For HTML/CSS and Vue proficiency… Really?
To make things a lot harder some countries, like German and Ireland, just don’t let international workers apply without a degree(theres a workaround if they have years of experience in the field).
I got my current job with the help of the Free Code Camp courses and a lot of online resources. I did online courses from Universities like Harvard and Princeton. I did a variety of Udemy and Udacity courses. I have a lot of personal projects on my GitHub and Codepen. I don’t get why people just don’t realize or don’t care about how important is this experience from outside the classroom.
I need to keep moving forward I gotta pay the bills I want a better life for my little baby and I love this programming life but I need to say: some days I feel like I should had been more pragmatic about the dream of the self taught. Sure, I didn’t had a lot of options but If you got some money go for a college or a University. Otherwise be prepared and look before you leap.